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by cygx 3850 days ago
I'm confused why they are so doom and gloom over this amazing new language (Perl 6) that is nearly a stable release.

Cf various rants by chromatic, eg http://www.modernperlbooks.com/mt/2013/02/goodnight-parrot.h...

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chromatic is hardly unbiased in that respect. He has some good points, he's an insightful person and a good communicator, but IIRC he's admitted that he might be at least somewhat biased in his opinions to me here on HN in the past due to his history with Parrot and the past Perl 6/Parrot issues (which is to be expected. I would doubt anyone who claimed to be unbiased with his history).

That said, his recent comments on HN regarding this issue seem to only half the time making a cogent argument, and the other half the time being pithy snipes, and at this point I'm not sure he's not working with vastly outdated information.

Are you thinking of this thread?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8982742

(I find particular amusement in rereading Moritz's post in that thread.)

I would doubt anyone who claimed to be unbiased with his history

It's certainly possible that a mysterious GitHub error revoked my commit access late one night, but the timing seems suspicious. I'll own up to my mistakes, but the rewriting of history seems unfair.

> Are you thinking of this thread?

With regard to you admitting bias? I don't recall specifically, we discussed it in depth a few times, so it could very well have been a feeling I left with and not a specific statement (and I'll fully admit I might have been projecting).

> I would doubt anyone who claimed to be unbiased with his history

What I meant was that was that anyone who has a complicated past where they feel misrepresented and that they were treated unfairly is bound to be biased in some way, and to claim otherwise would show a lack of introspection. It wasn't meant to be insulting, or something I thought you should feel the need to defend, it's more a general worldview of mine. Bias is hard to overcome and harder to eliminate. There's plenty of things I would like to think I'm unbiased about, but in reality I'm probably not.

I'm getting a strong feeling of Deja Vu. I think we may have had this discussion or one like it previously.