[ullus12]

Yet you can expect Cable service (Kabeldeutschland/Vodafone) to be to be lossy/congested at every days peek hours.

Whereas DTAG _does_ way better.

I dont like it, but as others have said: Relying on transit peering will not work well once you reach certain traffic levels.

Also you can get Servers from Strato (DTAG Sub) for about the same price as from Hetzner and pump your Traffic directly into a Tier1.

[merb]

That is simple not true (telekom customer). And I know a lot of people on Telekom.

We even needed to contact Github to change our peering since the default route from Github to DTag just sucks.

Our overall bandwidth with Telekom simply sucks. Most networks are really really slow, compared to Kabel Deutschland.

[ullus12]

> We even needed to contact Github to change our peering since the default route from Github to DTag just sucks.

and they were like "sure cosider it done"?

[merb]

> and they were like "sure cosider it done"?

no. they tried to find a way with us. but after that it didn't worked they changed the routing and it worked.

[Ao7bei3s]

Vodafone doesn't just offer cable service but also DSL and VDSL, and that's rock solid.

The cable service slowdowns are technology inherent. But that's a last-mile problem and not a backbone problem. Also, these providers aren't trying to use their customer base to extort money from hosters.

[ullus12]

Agree on the last-mile part

yet i doubt that buying from a (DSL-)Reseller is improving service quality and prices are roughly the same.

[Tepix]

I'm a Unitymedia customer in Germany (200mbps down, 10mbps up for 42€/month including VoIP) and they have been pretty good in terms of speed. I haven't noticed any slowdowns. They also make sure that you get a little extra bandwidth so even with overhead you will actually see those advertised transfer rates in the wild.