[utku_karatas2]

I'm speculating, rather sooner than later, the foundation will let people (read Chinese) clone Pi Zero at will ala Arduino way.

They can't even have a profit margin with that price point. So why not open-source it anyway to let go of the burden of manufacturing? That would be a great boost for the Raspberry platform.

[mSparks]

raspberry avoid this by using chips only supplied to them.

[TeMPOraL]

Where are those chips actually made? ;).

[mSparks]

What does it matter? broadcom wont sell you them. and you cant legally import them yourself.

[TeMPOraL]

Just because Broadcom won't sell them doesn't mean the factory won't make some more. This is China, they have a pretty liberal (and one could argue: more reasonable) approach to issues of intellectual property :).

Or at least it used to be so; sadly, in the last few years the US was pressuring Chinese government to crack down on it. Anyway, you can read more about this phenomenon here: [0].

Oh, and one more thing. It may not apply to RPi in terms of cloning it because it's still quite a niche product, but in general, they actually recycle electronics here. Like, seriously, when you throw away your smartphone, it'll likely end up in China for desoldering. So will your laptop. The amount of desoldered components and especially ICs available for sale is staggering. I have no data for this, but I'm pretty sure people here are making small-scale production runs out of recycled ICs. So Broadcom may not sell you their chip, but the lady on the first floor of SEG building in Shenzhen just might.

BTW., I love how they recycle components so much, and how it leads to interesting situations sometimes. For instance, I recently got my phone fixed - $15 and 15 minutes of waiting was all it took to get the front half of Galaxy S4 replaced with a brand new part (screen + touch surface + glass + box) and to get a new camera (electronics, lens and all). The equivalent repair at home would cost me around $240 and would take a few days. The secret of such cheap and fast repair? They took the broken parts from me. They'll regain 90% of value of that repair by simply replacing broken subcomponents in their own time, and then pushing the fixed modules back onto the market.

[0] - http://www.bunniestudios.com/blog/?cat=20

[rsync]

"So Broadcom may not sell you their chip, but the lady on the first floor of SEG building in Shenzhen just might."

And she will also happily affix a holographic "genuine" sticker to the part and package it in "original" "tamper proof" packaging. Just like brand new!

[TeMPOraL]

I've seen the stickers today. You can get quite a lot of them for less than a dollar :).

[mSparks]

or you get the broadcom+ chip. which kindly breaches your entire network and sends the content of everything it finds to a Chinese ip address...

don't have any data on that either. but I'm guessing it is more likely than getting what you ordered.