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by nkrisc 3867 days ago
I'd like to hear more about the bulbs used. Cheap wifi bulbs with a simple protocol sound like fun.
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I must have these, and a link to their alibaba page.
For some reason I get weary when I see cheap Chinese products that connect directly to a DC source. Mostly because of the stories of cheap phone chargers catching fire, or electrocuting users.
Well, if they do catch fire, at least they still provide illumination even when they fail!
Graceful degradation in action.
I'm also a little weary of cheap Chinese products that connect to my network... I'm always a little worried that they'll be doing something malicious, and I don't have the network know-how to prevent that.

That said, I'm not entirely sure the risk is that much greater with off-brand Chinese products than "American" (designed, programmed and made in China) ones.

Since we can't install firewalls on cheap Wi-Fi IoT devices, it would be interesting to have a Wi-Fi router that handles that for you, isolating every device on the network by default. Just have every device have a web control interface so that you don't have nasty surprises from devices starting to communicate on ports they aren't expected to be operating on. Or just close all outbound ports from devices by default, and just open those that are needed to operate the device. Requests to communicate on closed ports could trigger a message to the Wi-Fi admin who could decide what to let open. A smart interface would pre-generate Web searches for the device ID and port trying to open up so you can read up about it.
That's a really cool idea. I've actually considered having a second "guest" network for everything I don't trust my ability to secure, like windows machines and cheap IOT stuff.
this would be really useful. I think with a nice UX it could be rather popular.
True, but since everything is made in China these days, probably half the products in your house that connect to a DC source are cheap and Chinese.
Yes, but they've probably been at least UL (or CSA) certified to not burn down your house.
prob the Phillips bulbs. Sadly they don't sit flush in most sockets, despite using the same fixture name.
The Philips Hue bulb is the only one I'm really aware of, but I didn't think they were cheap. From the post it sounded like he was using something similar to the Hue bulbs but much cheaper.
Definitely not the Philips Hue bulbs. Those use a REST API on port 80 for network control, whereas these bulbs are using a proprietary binary protocol on port 5577.
From what I've been able to find about the Philips API, there's also a modicum of authentication while these appear happy to accept input from anyone on the network.
I don't think so--the author addresses it. From the post:

>My WiFi bulbs are some unknown, eBay sourced devices that use a crappy mobile app for control.

Same! I'd like to hear more
Caught my eye as well, wouldn't mind cheap WiFi-lamps to play around with.