[hguant]

Right, but the concerns of those citizens quite frankly aren't a primary concern of the United States.

[nitrogen]

Governments that maintain such shortsighted positions will eventually find themselves superseded on the world stage.

[001sky]

Odd comment, in this context. Have you read the article?

[vinceguidry]

I'm curious, do you have any examples to point to?

[nitrogen]

It's based on intuition and is only a response to the direct parent comment. If the US of .3 billion people ignores the needs of 6.7 billion people, eventually those people will find a way to escape the needs of the US.

I'll note that the HN article title used to be significantly different, so some of the conversation makes less sense without the "accused of lying to the president" in the title.

[CamperBob2]

The US itself?

[Nemcue]

That's an incredibly dehumanising way of viewing the world. A view I guess is shared by the ones who conducts your tortures and carries out your murders. Shame on you.

[oh_sigh]

Can you point me to any government in the world that cares more about non-citizens than it does about its own citizens?

[nitrogen]

That's not what the comment said. The word "more" wasn't used.

[oh_sigh]

The original comment was "the concerns of those citizens quite frankly aren't a primary concern of the United States".

[nitrogen]

Right, that's basically saying that the US should care about other countries' citizens, not that they should care more about other countries' citizens.

[oh_sigh]

I guess we just disagree on what that sentence is saying then. To me it says not that the US should care about non-citizens, but that, as a baseline, it cares about its own citizens more than it does about non-citizens.

[striking]

> on you

Many Americans did not choose their burden and instead were born into it. Shame should be placed somewhere, but I think this person's got nothing to do with it.