[mml]

I know many self-taught "software engineers". Most, if not all of them spend a great deal of time training BS-CSCI holders how to make a living out of their science. Many of the best programmers I've worked with didn't even start, much less finish college.

If disrespecting the likes of Major General Chuck Yeager (who can still kick Chuck Norris's ass) makes you feel better about your student loans, more power to you.

[dagw]

What? Where the hell did I disrespect Chuck Yeager? I have nothing but the utmost respect for the man. All I said was that he isn't a self taught pilot. He was in the military and the military trained him. Why is saying that disrespectful or in any way lessening the amazing things he's achieved.