[nickpsecurity]

The overall gist of it was that police are one of the top threats to civilians in the U.S. whether innocent or guilty. I didn't even bring up eminent domain although someone suggested I should. All these discussions around surveillance are tied to how increases in their power protect us. Yet, that can't be true if they consistently use their power to abuse, rob, or murder us without cause. And what they get away with now suggests we should be extra skeptical of adding security or immunity.

[privacy101]

That is very true and you might think that my next point is off-topic but too much surveillance power (or lack of privacy) is also a treat to democracy.

[nickpsecurity]

Nah that's consistent with my point. Plus leads one to think of even more issues that exist. :)