[johnsea]

some western commenter... and you are from?

Sad imho is that most of 'the middle east' since decades didn't succeed to solve their issues, a.o. become modern states. Always blame others. And you seem to do this also.

Yes I think 'the west' has many good things which could serve as a blueprint for most middle east countries: division of power, respect minorities, confine the influence of the religion(s).

Of course 'the west' is not perfect, far from it. (But your examples don't help in the grand scheme, this is known and won't help the Middle East to get capable governments who care for their citizens).

What happened in Paris (and in Beirut, Bagdad...) is murder. Weak persons who, lamentably - failed for a totalitarian sect. We must make sure that 'problematic things' get focused. It is also for the benefit of the normal people in the Middle East. Or don't you agree?