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by biokoda 3874 days ago
Speaking as an employer (not in France though). What do you have to show me that you are capable? I place next to no value on formal education. But it will get you a foot in the door if you have no actual work experience. It at least tells me you can commit to something, even if it sucks (like most formal CS education).

What I do care about is what you've worked on. If you have any personal projects to show me.

No education, no projects that you have worked on tells me nothing about you. If there are 10 candidates waiting, you have very little chance of being picked.

Someone with a history of open source contributions would be at the top of our candidate list.

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I have some downloadable exes on my website http://zonas.free.fr

Also bitbucket.com/jokoon/eio and github.com/jokoon/eio

Not really bright, but when I hear the "booming IT sector", I'm a little skeptic.

Please keep in mind I'm just trying to give you advice on how other employers might view you.

Your github/bitbucket just looks like bunch purposeless code. I presume it's your game?

If I were to make a judgement from looking at that. My impression would be that you might have a hard time being motivated for the work I would give you. You were not motivated enough to finish school. In your spare time you're working on a game, which is something beginners tend to start with.

There are a bunch of projects that are highly active and welcoming to contributors. Projects like servo or atom.io

Also try to keep your reddit and similar profiles private. You can give an employer too much of an intimate view.

> If I were to make a judgement from looking at that.

I'm reading anyway

> You were not motivated enough to finish school.

You might not know what the school system is like in france, and you don't know me either, so don't jump to conclusions.

> on how other employers might view you

You seem like a PR person, and I don't really like it. I has its importance, but I don't think it matters to me or should matter to my existence.

> You can give an employer too much of an intimate view

I got nothing to hide, I like to be honest. Points up for creepiness. If an employer wants to be politically correct, it's his problem.

Employers have to chose who to hire based on 1h interviews; how do you expect them to do that without jumping to conclusions?

Also, don't confuse honesty with aggressiveness. The interviewer will never get to know you, they'll only get a glimpse; it's not dishonest to make a deliberate decision about what you'll show them.

I read your parent posts and nodded in agreement, wondering if maybe I should ask for your resume. IT around here really has a lack of smart people that can keep things running. Then I read this. Whoops, dodged that one.
So what I should change my mind about my opinions? I could say the same about your comment "Phew, dodged that one".

If you really think you're going to know me by reading my internet comments, well, that might be your problem too.

No, you should not change your mind on your opinions. You should however keep your opinions to yourself or give up on "l'ascenceur social". Pick one.

(And also, read between the lines. People are dropping heavy hints in their responses to you.)

So, someone who is studying compsci and maintaining an FLOSS project would be at the top of your list?

Well, sadly that doesn’t help finding a student job that I can do in parallel to studying :/