They should have made fake ads about getting a free iphone with calling this number, that would be much more effective.
It would be interesting to see the resulting numbers - how many people are already afraid to call that number? Are YOU afraid of calling that number?
That is a nice real life demonstration of where that ill-minded techno-dictatorship will lead us.
Unfortunately there is no way back, as the USA ANGST to fight these nazis is too strong, especially in Silicon Valley, where too many chicken-hearted apple shiners (nice word!) are hiding instead of standing up. It is shocking to see how established that culture of ANGST is already established in the USA.
So be prepared for a long war and many death friends - this is always the only long-lasting result when you let paranoid and aggressive Neandertalers lead your society. Look at Germany after WW II to see the future of USA if you do not stand up now against that bigbrotherism.
Yes, it is up to you to change it. Follow the few brave we have seen and change your government to obey the people, not the other way around. Do it now and the world will be very thankful and start to love USA again! Amen :)
The point doesn't seem to be getting a lot of people to call the number. The point seems to be getting a lot of people thinking about the consequences of calling the number.
Your US citizenship will chase you abroad, make you file more crap than and get you more closely watched by the US than can even be done illegally domestically, all while preventing you from using banks and blocking you from standard investments both in the US and abroad.
Gone are the friendly (in retrospect) days of "if you don't like us you should leave."
From other nations with sketchy governments, you can claim asylum status where you land. For US citizens, you will be assumed to be crazy if you request status. You may as well be as no US citizen is able to prove their own prosecution. If the FOIA keeps any teeth it is still ~30 years after death that a FOI request will show anyone was politically targeted by the executive branch like Martin Luther King.
Enjoy your GDP, but try to stop spending it all in one place.
Once you leave you are on a very small list and you no longer have any legal protections from perpetual US surveillance and potential harassment. Will you eventually be bulk added to some no trade or no fly list? A life is 20 presidents, each with a need to look tough and place blame on scapegoats like those anti-patriots abroad.
Further, that process requires a legal proceeding with the US to investigate you for potential liabilities that is now paid for by you.
The idea of citizenship is not representative of anyone's rights in the US, which is made all the clearer by the new renunciation terms. The US could switch to the british term subject since every US person is at a minimum a subject of investigation. :)
It's a single anecdote and while quite possible that time has affected his memory the fact that he considers our situation even remotely comparable to that under the Stasi - whose history we, as victors, have written up as deplorable and criminal - can at the very least be cause for some concern and curiosity both about our perceived state of freedom and the effect of propaganda.
Nazis? While your sentiment can be respected, comparing the US to a national-socialist political party that manufactured and entire industry of exterminating so-called inferior races is hyperbole to the extreme. Now if you had said Stasi..
Not only is nazi a shortening of National Socialism but it is also easy to understand when you look at how much focus there was on common effort compared to individual freedoms.
IMO calling nazis right wing is just a very effectibe play to frame liberals and conservatives as closer to Nazis.
I wonder if they could possibly know that a ton of people called this number after reading this article, and to disregard that data from their graph. :) Obfuscation is really difficult in highly effective surveillance states.
Ah, but what if the owner wants their phone to be disregarded, and this is their way of baiting the NSA to do so? Now the NSA has no choice but to keep monitoring the phone, because of this possibility!
Not really the point though. The point is that you're essentially volunteering for surveillance and by doing so saying that the arbitrary safe-guard implemented by the NSA still doesn't make them morally justified to do so, or something to that effect.
I'm for this in principle, but I have absolutely no assurance that this is the number it's claimed to be. I would not like to be part of a vigilante attack on someone who turned out the wrong person.
It seems this is based on the idea that NSA is tracking connections to a person connected to him. Unfortunately, if anyone at NSA were to read this, they would be very easily able to segment off this connection if they wanted. Seems like it would be trivial to add an exclusion.
But we are already at that point. Yesterday my significant other was riding the train when some police officers came and asked here and everyone else aboard to show their ID cards for identification checking.
She complied. Then she picked up her phone to text me what was going on but refrained herself at the last second. An officer was behind her back and she thought : « I don't want to be seen as suspect by using the phone while police officers are going on with their operation. ». She looked at the phone's clock instead.
I am pretty sure the officers were there to find some refugees. November 11th is WW1 Armistice day where we live which is a bit symbolic.
Which isn't bad: your method works against lexical analysis (which as Bill Binney said is terrible because it buries analysts under too much material), while this method is against the three hops policy.
> A project for public space, with posters put up in Karlsruhe, Cologne and elsewhere in autumn and winter 2015/16
> Commissioned by ZKM | Center for Art and Media Karlsruhe on the occasion of the exhibition Global Control and Censorship, October 4, 2015 – May 1, 2016. The Cologne part of the project consists of 200 advertising columns
If you click the link "Advertising Columns" you can see those. I guess I am still confused as to what calling the number does (that we can actually see) and how it relates to the art.
> The mobile phone with the number +49 174 276 6483
On display in a vitrine in the exhibition Global Control and Censorship at ZKM | Center for Art and Media Karlsruhe, October 4, 2015 – May 1, 2016
> It's turned on and connected to the network. No-one (human) will pick up if you decide to make the call.
I'll be going to ZKM next week. From the photo ( http://hop3.de/mobiltelefon_en.html ) it seems like the phone displays the number of missed calls. I'll let you know what it says.
As anotheryou said, the phone is sadly limited to displaying double-digit numbers of missed calls. It did ring every couple of minutes though while we were there. We were playing with the idea of calling the people back (like any phone it shows the caller's number unless the caller chooses to prevent that) but in the end we didn't.
As much as I appreciate what the project is trying to illustrate I would think twice about really signing up for surveillance at second degree of separation. With Five Eyes surveillance reaching to three degrees of separation that makes me 'contagious', pulling every person I contact or have contacted electronically into surveillance as well.
This targeting of not only you but also everyone you've been in contact with is of course one of the reasons the system is so malicious.
As for signing up, then again, maybe it doesn't make that much difference in practice. With the Lists being as long as they are, two degrees of separation would have been a lot of people, but it seems that three would make for virtually everyone.
Would I even be able to add my friends to the surveillance systems, or is every single one of us already there...
>I would think twice about really signing up for surveillance at second degree of separation.
It's amazing how quickly this kind of advice has become a accepted reality in the west. Try to to stay small in the eyes of the government. I hope everyone understands to feel little ashamed if they do this.
Indeed, it even validates the use of mass surveilance to begin with. After leaks of the keywords that would "put you on a list" at the NSA, some people seem concerned to exercise their liberties, like googling for things in an attempt to avoid being flagged by intelligence agencies. This, of course, makes everything worse, as now there's more reason to commit the spying, as only those truly guilty would ever willing do actions that wind up putting them on a list.
This is also related to the encryption by default debate, were we must acknowledge the very large amount of metadata leaked if we only encrypt our communicatioms/data when we deem them sensitive.
If that's directed at my comment in particular you seem to have completely misunderstood what I was saying.
I'm not advising anyone one way or another about whether or not to connect themselves at second degree to Bill Binney.
Those who would choose to associate themselves with anyone in the Cast Iron category however, would do well to realize that it's a decision that affects many, many more innocent people than themselves.
The current state of affairs in these matters is of course a repugnant one and ought to be ended as soon as possible. If someone believes they can contribute to that end most effectively by inviting an even more extensive automated spy dossier on their every action, those of their friends and of their friends' friends, maybe that is what they should be doing.
Personally I think I object at least as effectively by pulling every person I reasonably can over to securely encrypted communications and educating nontechnical people about what is being done to them.
You used TOR, just to check it out? You have some bitcoin? You google strange stuff about electronics, just to know how things work? You downloaded truecrypt? You have a hacker or two in your phonebook? Use VPN?
I bet any signle one of these actions make you more suspicious/interesting than 90% of the rest of the world and probably you did more than one thing in that list.
And we all know they basically try to record everything. How are the chances they at least capture the most interesting 10%?
To (loosely) quote the artist: "We, as hackers, artists, political people, ended up on some list anyhow."
Yep. The potentially unconventional people are homogenized the most by surveillance. It's hard to be creative when you don't have the secrecy to play around with ideas unseriously.
I don't really care to. I understand William Binney has provided some whistleblowing on the shady business the alphabets have been up to but he also came up with "5 Eyes" which is the foundational legal justification that routes around the Constitution (among other legal documents and protections among the "partners").
I guess I just feel he has an impossible task to make up for that. I think he's a good cautionary tale for young nerds who have an overwhelming amount of intelligence and cleverness but a paucity of wisdom, natural or developed over time.
It would be interesting to see the resulting numbers - how many people are already afraid to call that number? Are YOU afraid of calling that number?
That is a nice real life demonstration of where that ill-minded techno-dictatorship will lead us.
Unfortunately there is no way back, as the USA ANGST to fight these nazis is too strong, especially in Silicon Valley, where too many chicken-hearted apple shiners (nice word!) are hiding instead of standing up. It is shocking to see how established that culture of ANGST is already established in the USA.
So be prepared for a long war and many death friends - this is always the only long-lasting result when you let paranoid and aggressive Neandertalers lead your society. Look at Germany after WW II to see the future of USA if you do not stand up now against that bigbrotherism.
Yes, it is up to you to change it. Follow the few brave we have seen and change your government to obey the people, not the other way around. Do it now and the world will be very thankful and start to love USA again! Amen :)