[mcv]

But that argument stops working once certain industry groups do get access to the negotiations, which I thought was the case here.

Also, this agreement goes way beyond a simple trade deal; parts on this undermine the very basis of our democracy and justice system. I don't see how any democratic country can possibly agree to this.

[cryoshon]

Not only our democracy and justice system, but the systems of the other signatory countries as well. For many of them, the TPP will result in loss of relative sovereignty to the American multi-national corporations that are privy to the details of the deal-- Novartis being the biggest pusher in the pharma aspects of the deal as they relate to copyright.

[mcv]

Not my democracy and justice system, actually. I'm more concerned about TTIP in that respect.

[kspaans]

Agreed, I'm more or less positive on the physical goods free-trade aspects of TPP but all of the copyright and IP law additions worry me.

[coldpie]

It's kind of a shame that an otherwise-useful treaty that could lead to great cooperation and improved trade between important markets is so marred by these unconscionable IP terms. Reminds me of a similar treaty in Europe a couple years ago that got struck down in its entirety due to its ridiculous IP terms. I forget the name.