[grogenaut]

If people had waited to leave Europe until the 1970s the culture had been "refactored" enough for the masses, I doubt the world would have advanced as far as it had and the pressure of the population growth from industrialization would have caused some real issues. Actually I think it might be refactored even worse for the masses. Letting the average person go out and build new things helped a lot.

Also, do you really think we can only fix one problem at a time? Did the birth of the transistor stop the civil rights movement?

[anon8764]

Perhaps technology has advanced too fast for the "culture". Perhaps we should design our intentions before we build the tech, and not the other way around. Look at NASA for inspiration on design and forethought.

[ZenoArrow]

I don't know why you're being downvoted, those ideas make perfect sense to me. Thoughts about how we want to structure our society should drive decisions on technology, we shouldn't have to adapt society to new technology if the society decides against using it.

[grogenaut]

The problem with this is you're designing based on your current world view and assumptions. When does this type of planning ever work and actually stand up to 20 years of history? 40? 100? In the 50's the us was DESIGNED around the car and suburbs. That worked well.

[ZenoArrow]

> "The problem with this is you're designing based on your current world view and assumptions. When does this type of planning ever work and actually stand up to 20 years of history?"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_on_the_Non-Proliferatio...

With a few exceptions, that's been working since the 70's.

[anon8764]

My logic is based on numbers. Earth Population, Imaginary lines in the sand, War over money. These are not signs of intelligence, especially when they have only 1 planet to survive on that gets more populated every day with little regard to long-term resource management, although I am proud of the Svalbard Global Seed Vault. :)

This type of planning worked for Voyager (NASA/JPL).

fyi: cars suck. Dirty, inefficient, and it follows the same logic of giving every person in a 200 person hotel an individual elevator. It makes no sense, when you can instead design cities and transportation to be like the site I linked above (www.et3.com).

It's their choice though, if they want faster horses instead of cars, so be it. If they want faster cars instead of et3, so be it.

They prop and fall on their own sword I suppose.

[grogenaut]

You mistake that I don't agree with you about how it should be. I just think we should deal with how it is and manage the chaotic system.