[verelo]

I would argue that the issue is not with the "programmers" but HR. I've had people hand me offer letters with "Software Engineer" written on it, but i do not hold an engineering degree (and i didn't ask for that title!)

Most of my Comp. Science friends have had the same experience, one went so far as to return the offer and replace the title with "Computer Scientist".

So HR, please stop calling Scientists (or in my case, people with incomplete degrees), Engineers.

[verelo]

I respect peoples right to down-vote, but i would appreciate you to also leave some feedback if you have the chance. I'm genuinely curious as to what someone might disagree with, I feel that all I stated were facts from my own personal experience without any real argument for much else.

[Can_Not]

I wouldn't have downvoted, but are programmers generally actually scientists? I think next week a pop physics blog would make a headline saying "Programmers stop calling yourselves scientists". In my work, I do engineering and science related to programming. I see a lot of my peers doing less of both. But I'm actually a web developer. With how young the field of programming is, we're really more computer cowboys then scientists or engineers. The amount of science and engineering we do is dwarfed by the amount of exploring we do.

[verelo]

People with "Computer science" degrees are by education, maybe not in practice.