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by coldtea 3882 days ago
>IIRC the Christian bible doesn't bat an eye at slavery either or voice any dissent, rather upholding it as a moral virtue.

The Christian Bible is not that much christian -- it's basically the old jewish religious texts repackaged. As such it existed for centuries without any external adoption outside Israel (not that it's practitioners meant it for other peoples anyway).

What caught on in Roman times, and was revolutionary, was the New Testament. That was the "good (new) message" (the Gospel) that caught on, and that's where the fundamental change in mores is contained in.

Unfortunately there are a lot of "Christians" these days that are more for Old Testament than the New Testament part of the bible (as did the most conservative people in previous centuries too).

Consider Jesus treatment of outsiders, thieves, low-ranking people, beggars, prostitutes, criminals etc. (as portrayed in the gospels, I'm not saying it happened as such in real life), and how e.g. church-going "christians" think of and treat such people.

[Add.] Now, as to what you said about "batting an eye", actually there were several advocates for the abolition of slavery in christianity, and a long-going internal discussion about the issue. At worst, christian thinkers were for the humane and brotherly treatment of slaves (as opposed to downright abolition of slavery), which is still improved than the older views on the rights of masters. They also accepted slaves as saints (something that would sound preposterous to Romans before).

In fact a lot if not most of the early adopters, so to speak, of the new religion in Rome were slaves themselves -- not talking openly about abolition was to protect themselves and because it was an ancient and accepted institution that took ages to erode, one which not everybody (slaves included) thought unnatural at the time. Not unlike sweatshop labor today (which you see well educated libertarians and the like accepting still, as better than poverty).

Heck, slavery was still practiced by open minded, modern, post-industrial revolution and enlightenment countries, not just in the US until the Civil War, but in most of European countries that had colonies until the '50s (and even in the US, the same tradition carried on in the form of officially sanctioned Jim Crow and segregation laws).

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The New Testament also has several verses admonishing freshly-converted Christian slaves to obey their masters (Eph. 6:5, 1 Peter 2:18). Christianity at that time was controversial enough that they didn't want to add abolitionism to the mix.

Even in Medieval/Renaissance Europe there was a healthy slave trade centered around filling galleys with oarsmen who were understandably not happy with such repetitive work under terrible working conditions. Genoese traders in Italy even collaborated with the Crimean khanate in enslaving Eastern European Orthodox Christians so they could fill out their galleys. Also, taking of Moorish slaves during the back-and-forth of Mediterranean maritime politics.

Much of this sounds like speculation. How exactly, do you know what religious beliefs the slaves in Rome had, and why they chose not to talk about particular aspects of their beliefs?
From historians and accounts of the era -- you do know that there are several volumes of scholarly studies on the matter, right? Check out especially Rodney Stark and Jennifer Glancy (but you can also read accounts from that very era too -- up to the early Byzantine era, including from founding figures of the church).