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by vidarh 3885 days ago
Who are "these people"?

How do you decide which ones amongst them are "all there in the head"?

How do you distinguish between someone sane but eccentric that refuses to speak to you, and is filthy and lives rough vs. someone with a mental illness without applying force?

> If he was forcefully taken to the hospital, forcefully given medication, and recovered he would exclaim "Thank you for saving me!

Some would. Others, as I mentioned in an anecdote elsewhere in this thread, would sue you, appeal the case all the way to the supreme court, and win.

> If I had a mental disorder that made me go crazy--so crazy that it doesn't even enter my mind that I need help--I would hope that my government would restore my sanity (as I am unable to do so).

I would too. The problem is that not everyone living like this have mental disorders that make them incompetent to make their own decisions, and separating the ones with real medical needs from the eccentrics is not straightforward.

A large problem is also that often while the official motivation is to help, the impetus for the "help" is that others take offence at their presence or attribute moral failings to them and want them gone, and don't so much care whether or not it helps the person in question.