[aikah]

This witch hunt from someone who never contributed to Opal has nothing to do with web development and maintainers responded him/her the right way. And frankly the brigading from people who never ever used github and aren't developers was so obvious the whole thing was a farce.

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I agree with CoralineAda on her views, however her approach to these issues is almost always wrong (the two of us had discussion on this many times). With that being said, I wouldn't personally contribute to Opal because of Elia.

The way I see these projects--if I get involved with them--is that it's like a virtual workplace, and everyone else working on it and participates in discussions or otherwise is pretty much a coworker.

If anyone feels this strongly about a certain group (like Elia), they will find "devil's advocate" (for a lack of better expression) reasons to disagree with them simply because they don't like them, or otherwise try to diminish the person in various forms to deter them from contributing. The worst part is that they might not even do it on purpose or even ralise it, so they'd be innocent in their self-perception. Not to mention, that some of the other contributors who've been acquainted with him would likely go to his defence (as is the case with meh[1]). Shit like this has been happening all the time; saying that it does not would be ignorant.

[1]: To a certain extent I also agree with meh, that there shouldn't be any politics/religion/general-bullshit topics within a software project, however Elia's Twitter profile managed to do exactly that. If he's going to have hate speech (call it what you want, but that is hate speech) and talk shit on his Twitter, he shouldn't promote his involvement in a respectable project, because this will happen. Elia is a shitty fucking person and he's put a stain on the project (but, hey, that's just my little, worthless opinion).

[mikecmpbll]

"If anyone feels this strongly about a certain group (like Elia), they will find "devil's advocate" (for a lack of better expression) reasons to disagree with them simply because they don't like them, or otherwise try to diminish the person in various forms to deter them from contributing."

why on earth do you feel that you're an authority on how people _will_ behave? don't judge everyone else by your awfully low standards of professionalism, almost everyone i've ever worked with has been capable of working with people with which they have disagreements, without their differences of opinions causing issues.

grow up.

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> why on earth do you feel that you're an authority on how people _will_ behave?

I am not an authority on how people will behave; it was simply a prognosis. I am sorry, if I somehow implied otherwise.

> don't judge everyone else by your awfully low standards of professionalism

Generally, if someone has horrible personal antics, it's very likely they'll carry those into other aspects of their life, even GitHub or work. We're only human.

> almost everyone i've ever worked with has been capable of working with people with which they have disagreements, without their differences of opinions causing issues.

Well, consider yourself lucky, then. Not everyone's had the benefit of such experiences. I myself haven't had horribly bad ones either. Although, I know people to whom it happened and how it affected their general emotional well-being; it was horrible watching them slowly deteriorate because they were in such a position.

> grow up.

Eventually, I might.