[moxie]

See my comment here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10500188

[rogerbraun]

Thanks for the answer, but if you don't care about this use case, then I think I'll just use a different application that does.

The things I don't like about Signal / Textsecure are:

- Requires Google / Apple services

- No easy way to self host

- Accounts bound to a phone number

- No desktop client ("Being worked on" for months now...)

All these things can be solved for me by using XMPP with Conversations on Android.

So maybe the right thing to do is to stop complaining. Signal / Textsecure is just meant for other people than me.