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by jmilloy 3889 days ago
I think you would find we agree much more than we disagree. Though what I find most infuriating is the blanket assumption (with similar level of disconnect) that what is being taught is mindless or confusing with no value, often simply because it's labeled as a "curriculum" or a "learning objective". You're not automatically right because you "experienced similar BS"; instead you have to realize that you, too, are coming into it with a bias and blindness.

What I see is a a bunch of people who can't stand seeing that red -1, maybe because it has been ingrained in them that they have to be perfect. Or maybe it's natural, and no one helped them git rid of that feeling.

It's so important for young students to feel like they understand and will continue to understand, in order for them to then achieve new understanding. I don't know how to write that without sounding like a theorist, but I sincerely believe it to be true. You've got to get rid of that fear of red ink.

There are tons of poor ways to teach, and poor curricula. This teacher could be doing a fine job with this student (and the parent's the ones that don't get it), or could be seriously hindering the child. I certainly wouldn't teach multiplication strategies this way. But it's not clear to me that marking this particular answer as only partially correct is inherently and unquestionably wrong.

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You're still stuck in the theory, talking about how the people in this thread feel when none of them matter. The child matters, that's it.

> It's so important for young students to feel like they understand and will continue to understand, in order for them to then achieve new understanding. I don't know how to write that without sounding like a theorist, but I sincerely believe it to be true. You've got to get rid of that fear of red ink.

None of what has been applied in the photo is pedagogical and will lead to "getting rid of the fear of the red ink". Seriously man, take a step back, punishing a child for being right will make it worse if anything. Even if what you were talking about was a thing (it's not - the closest thing that comes to it is fear of failure and it's dealt with outside of tests), this would NOT help it.

The child isn't being punished.

The child wasn't right.

That's okay.

They child might not know it's okay. In that case, they should receive support.

Getting marked wrong doesn't help get rid of the fear of failure; we agree about that. Not sure why you got the impression I thought otherwise.

Many people in the thread are reacting against the lesson and grading because of how they feel, not about how the child feels. That's why how they feel matters, when discussing it in an ultimately irrelevant forum.

The purpose of marking a test is to communicate to the child whether they understand the topic. Marking an almost correct answer wrong (without elaboration) is bad feedback.

The problem that people are raising here isn't how the child feels, it's how the child thinks. And one thing they might think as a result of this answer is "Oh, I guess multiplication isn't the same both ways. I must have been mistaken." and it might take some time for this misunderstanding to clear up.