[PopeOfNope]

> how else would you have any idea about what happens around the world?

Since there's nothing I can do about anything anywhere else in the world, why should I care? Furthermore, if very little the news establishment publishes is correct, how can you say you have any idea what's actually happening around the world? You don't. With the readiness with which the news establishment will publish absolute junk, what makes you think they won't publish what they're told by their corporate owners or the government? When nobody does any fact checking, it leaves them (and you) vulnerable to manipulation.

> Do you see no value whatsoever in publications such as The New York Times, The Washington Post or The Economist?

None.

> Had it not been for the articles in Svenska Dagbladet, how would the shareholders ever find out about this misuse of the company's resources?

Wow, you had to go all the way to Sweden to dig up an example for this? We're talking about the American news establishment. I have no comment on or exposure to European news. In the American media, investigative journalism is a dead art. The disclosures we see in the news are mostly done because we have a (more or less) open market which gives an incentive for all sorts of people and organizations to profit from these sorts of disclosures. That part of the system would work just as well without journalists.

[cpach]

> Wow, you had to go all the way to Sweden to dig up an example for this? We're talking about the American news establishment.

All the way? Has it occurred to you that not every participant in this forum is a US citizen?