[lucozade]

Again, I don't think anyone is suggesting that jvm languages can't be successful. The evidence would be against anyone who did.

The question is: why would you use Ceylon over the competition?

There are a number of reason I can think of. You want to target node.js too; you're a Haskeller in your spare time. That sort of thing.

But the question still stands. Is there enough to prefer it to Scala, Kotlin or, gasp, Java?

Honestly, I don't know. But equally there's nothing that stands out for me. If anything this has actually made me think I should probably look at Kotlin again.