[gavinking]

"The problem with reified generics isn't their efficiency, but that they don't play nice with other generic types on the platform (which is the vast majority)."

This is simply nonsense. You made it up. There have been zero complaints about problems Ceylon has in interoperating with Java's generic types, since they simply don't exist.

I can't believe you just wrote such a longwinded comment about a nonexistent problem that you imagined out of whole cloth.

[ngrilly]

Could you grossly explain how reified generics are implemented and how they interoperate with Java's generic types? It would be a good way to defuse pron's claim.