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by jnoller 3890 days ago
Exactly - we really struggled with this. A node (for example, when doing a Docker info when having $SWARM hosts) implies to the user physical isolation. As a distributed systems nerd, I pushed for "anything that doesn't make a contract it's on a different machine". Segment, slice, pod, chunk, block - something other than implying the isolation and therefore fault tolerance of the overall system.

https://getcarina.com/docs/faq/ has more
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whalesalad 3890 days ago
This level abstraction seems unnecessary. We need to just let-go of the concept of physical or virtual hosts. A machine should boot and join a cluster, advertising its capabilities (ssd drives, gpu's, enhanced networking, it's availability zone or region, etc...) and you should never need to think about that stuff, period.

I don't care how many devices/segments/nodes/slices/dynos/widgets are in my cluster. I care that I have X GB of total memory and Y cpu's. I want to check a box to make an app or service highly available (on more than one node, and in more than one zone) and Ronco™ set it and forget it.

Everything else is just noise.

I love the ideas behind Kubernetes and Fleet/CoreOS (and this) but everyone is SO excited about these low level technologies that have yet to be composed into beautiful experiences.

A tweet from Kelsey Hightower sums it up perfectly:

    It's going to be nearly impossible for people
    to evaluate and chose a container management platform
    during the gold rush.
https://twitter.com/kelseyhightower/status/65918202241030553...
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jnoller 3890 days ago
I actually completely agree, and that's where I want to head with Carina. That user experience is the end-game.
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tbronchain 3890 days ago
Absolutely agree with that. We released yesterday a project called Hypernetes[1], which has been designed to solve the "I care that I have X GB of total memory and Y cpu's. I want to check a box to make an app or service highly available" problem.

[1]: http://hypernetes.com

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nevalau 3890 days ago
Totally agreed with this and that was also our vision when we started to create Kontena (https://github.com/kontena/kontena)
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