[rtpg]

There's some interesting case law around locked things. One train of thought is that the govt can force you to give the key to a safe, but can't force you to give the combination to a safe.

The Apple extension would be that the govt can force unlocking by Apple (since they have a key) but not by you. All the more you reason to make it technically impossible ...

[sbov]

Do they have a key? I thought the point of the recent iPhone encryption is that they don't have a key?

[rtpg]

In the case mentioned, the phone was running an older version of iOS where they could, in fact, unlock the phone.

But the recent ones make it impossible, yeah