[oceanstone]

> Virtually all of EFF's policy advocacy, I find untrustworthy. I don't even believe they take it seriously.

This is an interesting conspiracy theory.

> Is it really that hard for you to see that as a plausible narrative?

My theory is that they really believe in what they're doing. They are based in SF, so they are surrounded by well-funded startups offering high salaries. Employees of EFF could be making small fortunes, and instead they choose to fight to secure civil rights. Why? Because some people value freedom over currency. This narrative seems more plausible.

[tptacek]

The people doing advocacy work at EFF are generally not technologists, from what I can tell.

[oceanstone]

I'm not sure what your point is, regarding technologists.

[tptacek]

Technologists working for EFF are probably giving up outsized salaries at SFBA startups. Advocacy journalists are probably not.

I'm sure they're all good people who believe in what they're doing. It does not follow that they believe in every individual position they advocate for; they're a nonprofit, so fundraising is a huge part of their job.

[oceanstone]

Cool, thanks for elaborating on your stance