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by zzalpha 3894 days ago
"Keep your head down" has never been a constructive strategy for minority groups targeted by discrimination.

Where did I say she should do that?

I said she should be mature and maintain the moral high ground. I didn't say she should shut up.

Perhaps you're reading more into my words than is actually there?

If you publicly undermine the reliability or emotional state of the reporter, you are actively re-affirming the status quo and denying that there is a problem.

If you assume all workplace confrontations between man and woman represent some form of sexism, you diminish the actual struggles of women everywhere.

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As a related aside, Dr. King had a few words to say along these lines, including:

We must develop and maintain the capacity to forgive. He who is devoid of the power to forgive is devoid of the power to love. There is some good in the worst of us and some evil in the best of us. When we discover this, we are less prone to hate our enemies.

It would seem you would've told King he should keep his observations to himself.

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You keep re-framing this in terms of "a workplace confrontation," yet your only engagement with this situation, at all, is an eyewitness account claiming it was problematic.

Negating and ignoring the subjective experience of women is very root of the problem in question. And that's exactly what you're doing!

Also, white males quoting MLK at minorities to get them to behave is so cliche, it's actually a pretty reliable signal of bad faith. I would advise you to avoid it in the future.

Negating and ignoring the subjective experience of women is very root of the problem in question.

You do realize you can criticize someone of being a bad actor without aiding and abetting sexism.

Can't you?

Or would you have me believe that criticizing, say, the Black Panthers or the IRA for their actions is basically racist, too?

Also, white males quoting MLK at minorities to get them to behave is so cliche, it's actually a pretty reliable signal of bad faith.

And not learning anything from illuminating, historical analogies, and the wisdom of luminaries from those struggles, is evidence of willful ignorance.

The fact that you assume I'm a "white male", and therefore that my quoting a black man is "cliche" is also borderline racist... Would it have been better if I quoted Ghandi? Jesus? Which leaders espousing views of peace, justice, and understanding in the face of adversity would you prefer I'd have quoted, given your assumptions about my gender and ethnicity?