[mildbow]

Ugh.

Don't listen to a puffed up experts or self-assigned gate-keepers rehashing generic fluff (click-baity title included!) to get out another tired blogpost.

The only takeaway from this post should be: find mentors so you can accelerate your learning.

Now, whether you want to accelerate learning how to be an employee or to be a founder is up to you.

Because ain't nothing to it, but to do it.

[AnimalMuppet]

I didn't see it that way at all. In the current environment (especially somewhere like HN), there's a constant chorus saying that A Startup Is What You Should Do. Pointing out that it comes with the real possibility of destroying your personal finances is in fact a valuable service to those thinking of doing a startup.

It's not all rainbows and unicorns out there.

[jasonmcalacanis]

That you for reading the full article and understand my point. I meet with 15-25 founders a week typically, and I can tell you many of the folks I'm meeting with in 2015 are nothing like the folks in the down markets for 2009-2011 and 2001-2005.

In the up market I see all these people rush in "to do a startup," but they are doing it because it's hip or a quick way to make money. They really haven't considered the personal, emotional and professional toll these businesses take on a person. They really think it's going to be funding round after funding round....

[mildbow]

How big a deal really, in the grand scheme of things, is the destruction of personal finances in your early 20s to 30s? If it helps, compare starting a startup to getting a PhD or MBA etcs. In most other skilled professions, people start actually having a career in their 30s anyway.

When you think about loss, consider things you can recoup vs things you can't.

You can recoup money. You can't recoup ... well .. pretty much anything else.

[HiLo]

Considering most on average do fail, most people will never recover from this financial damage before they die, particularly later in life when the differences are most pronounced and the marginal dollar is much more valuable due to rising health-care cost and dwindling income. So finance says you're wrong on that one.

You really can't recoup the money. $1,000 invested at 23 is worth $37,165 at 75, assuming 7.2% historical equity risk premium. $1,000 invested at 30 is worth $22,844 at 75 with the same 7.2% growth.

Your comment seems to imply that people can strike it rich if they just pull the level enough times, but your comment is actually false for the majority of people that read your post.

[mildbow]

Yeah, I know about compound interest. Truly.

What I was trying to say is money can mostly be made up even if you don't strike it rich. Same amount of money? Maybe not. But enough to have the same order lifestyle as you would otherwise? Definitely. I was trying to allude to this by referencing other professions where they don't really start until their 30s.

Consider also that you seem you think of money as something that you accrue strictly as a function of time. If you are doing retirement planning strictly based on your 401k, then you probably aren't planning that well. Lots of things that worked for our parents won't pan out well for us. Ask non-STEM majors looking for jobs in the past decade.

Anyway, starting a startup solely to get in the game/get rich is a losing proposition modulo how connected you are.

My point was the negatives, as a founder, are probably constrained to monetary ones. Which at the end of the day isn't that bad of a deal. It's just money. Which makes it a very well leveraged bet IMO.

[jasonmcalacanis]

I think that's a great point. The time to do this is before you have huge commitments to things like... ummm.... babies... and mortgages.... and spouses....

If you go broke and you know how to code, sell or build product you can recover quickly by parking yourself at Google or Facebook for a year or two.

There is little downside to trying in your 20s UNLESS you go into massive debt (defined as 1-2x your expected yearly salary)