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by cgs1019 3888 days ago
I've always thought it would be fun to somehow incorporate technology into climbing for tracking or otherwise augmenting the experience.

Time trials sound like a quick avenue to painful injury, though. If I were a gym, I'd be cautious in encouraging it. In my experience, climbing prowess is not a matter of speed but control -- the more statically you can complete a route the more control you demonstrate. A friend of mine once said his goal is to complete a route as silently as possible, avoiding accidental scuffs of his shoes or knocking of his knuckles on the wall. This is actually a great measure of control, too.
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tomsthumb 3888 days ago
Explosive power is pretty important though, and this would be a nice way to train it outside of campus boarding which gives you one movement on each side of your body. This gives an avenue for a lot of different movement, but then there are system boards for that as well and those are a little more "quantifiable". Maybe this would be a good way to mix it up of you're bored of system boarding?

I agree about being cautious about using this. It seems like a good way for new people to mess up their shoulders. The thought of hitting crimps that hard/fast is terrifying.

I do really want to take some of my friends who climb like Fred Nicole (super slow and static as possible) and make them use this though. Sometimes utilizing momentum is important. Sometimes climbing everything static is a huge waste of energy and is actually bad technique, despite being generally safer and better for training outright strength (as opposed to power).

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mightybyte 3888 days ago
> Time trials sound like a quick avenue to painful injury

Oh it's already a thing, injury or no.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4n6xfu8VDU

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tomsthumb 3888 days ago
That's pretty different than this though. Those people have made those exact moves hundreds or thousands of times. They know how to set their shoulders for those moves and aren't put in situations with novel foot work that could mess up their knees. Those routes are also rather easier than the hardest thing they could climb. All of the holds are massive, not necessarily good, but large enough that finger injury should be very unlikely.

The parent is worried about the combination of pushing the limit of what you can do safely with your strength and doing so as fast as possible. This can lead to being out of control, and strength and technique are part of what keep you safe.

You should probably have a very high level of climbing fitness before you even consider this, though I can see it being potentially quite useful. You would also have to break down what is going on in the route that is generated and how it might be dangerous. Throwing out drop knees[0] and heel hooks[1] and yanking on crimps[2] is a great way to get wrecked if you don't know _exactly_ what you're doing.

[0] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHlzC7EqyDA

[1] - https://climbingtogetherandotherfunadventures.files.wordpres...

[2] - really tiny holds => https://www.google.com/search?q=climbing+crimp&tbm=isch

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