[dragonwriter]

> Nationalized healthcare is a disaster economically and in patient outcomes

In the rest of the developed world, universal healthcare (both nationalized and on other models) is consistently cheaper (per capita and per GDP) than the US system, and produces overall comparable to better outcomes than the US system. So, if it is fair to say that "nationalized healthcare is a disaster economically and in patient outcomes", it is only in a sense where nationalized healthcare is still significantly less of a disaster in those areas than the US system is.