[igor_a]

"It was regular war zone with dozens other planes shoot down"

with dozens of Ukrainian planes shoot down. (who shot them? where did they got weapons for that? where did they got skills for that?)

"Ukraine army shoot down civil airliner with 90 people on board just a few years ago" How many planes (korean planes to be specific) were shot down by USSR (that includes Russia)

[3princip]

How many planes were shot down by the US (Iranian planes to be specific)?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655

[smcl]

This a lovely example of the irritating "whataboutism" that clouds these sorts of discussions and bring nothing to the table.

Iranian Air Flight 655 has nothing to do with the article or this discussion.

[datalist]

To be fair igor_a started dragging unrelated what-if scenarions about Russia into the discussion.

[smcl]

You're right - both are unrelated, I should've mentioned the pair of them

[igor_a]

Yep they shot it and admitted it. It's a big difference

[igor_a]

I meant difference not about the fact that somebody shot the plane, but the difference in reaction.

Why Russia blocked tribunal? What about all that clowning around investigation, throwing a new weird version about accident (what about the version that goes about frozen bodies or version about shooting down the plane by Ukrainian Su-25 that can't reach that altitude? All of this went through Russian state TV channels and other state people (Investigation Committee etc.)