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by pdabbadabba 3902 days ago
Does an amateur license allow you to operate a RADAR system? I doubt it. I had thought that amateur operators were somewhat limited in the sorts of hardware and operations they are permitted. (E.g., type acceptance of equipment when operating outside designated amateur bands.)

And in the U.S. at least the bands around 5.5 GHz (the so-called U-NII-2 and U-NII-2 extended bands) are subject to lots of interesting rules for unlicensed operation, including the ability to detect and avoid incumbent RADAR signals. https://transition.fcc.gov/bureaus/oet/ea/presentations/file...

Of course, I know literally nothing about the Finnish rules that actually apply here...except that, thanks to the ITU, they probably bear some resemblance to the U.S. rules.

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Radar systems are fairly common on boats larger than ~30 ft, and you can operate those without any license at all. The latest generation devices are all broadband, working on the principle that if you spread your broadcast over a wide enough range, the power you're broadcasting on any given band is very low, i.e. legal and not causing interference for others. Maybe this guy is working off the same principle?
You don't always need an operator license but, when you don't, you typically do need properly certified equipment. (This is also why you don't need a license to use Wi-Fi.) The rules vary by service and by frequency band.

I'm no expert on boat RADARs, but I'd bet that, 1) they operate in bands allocated for that sort of use and 2) that they have been either type accepted or certified by the FCC to comply with whatever rules govern their band of operation.

> Does an amateur license allow you to operate a RADAR system?

Yes, conditionally. RADAR does not fall under the "specifically prohibited" rule for communications, but it's also not explicitly listed as "specifically authorized" either. Likely up to the discretion of whatever FCC official you asked.

http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/index.htm?job=about_1&id=am...

> the ability to detect and avoid [interference with other] signals.

This is a requirement for all amateur radio transmissions. However, so long as you take reasonable precautions (and react to any reports of issues), you can do it.

In my (unprofessional) reading of the phrase "You determine for yourself whether your communications should be transmitted on amateur service frequencies", a reasonably powered experimental radar system which doesn't interfere with other services would be OK.