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by zxcvcxz 3904 days ago
I don't understand why the emphasis is on the tech community. If this were an automotive convention it would probably be worse. A hansom male at a beauty convention will likely be ogled by some of the women.

I also don't understand why feminists rarely attack mass media like the shows they have on Fox and Comedy Central, which are probably much closer to the root cause of "sexism" seeing as they make it seem like casual sexism is okay.

It's very hard to take the feminist seriously when their biggest enemy seems to be the 2% of pasty awkward nerds who happen to make a cultural faux pas. They weren't born sexist. They're victims of society. Blaming them is blaming the victim. Most of them probably have not had much interaction with the opposite sex and don't even know how to initiate conversation.

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> I don't understand why the emphasis is on the tech community.

Because that's the industry that the author (and presumably, most of us readers) are in.

> If this were an automotive convention it would probably be worse.

Probably, but like... do you go to automotive conventions? I don't, so what goes on in them is really outside of anything I know about or can change. So... I'm not sure the relevance.

> Most of them probably have not had much interaction with the opposite sex and don't even know how to initiate conversation.

Well, hopefully some of them will read this article and find out some things not to do.

> A hansom male at a beauty convention will likely be ogled by some of the women.

I'm not handsome, and I don't get "ogled" a lot, but when I do, it NEVER has this slimy, condescending air it too often has when men hit on women. It's either friendly sympathy or friendly lust, and I would assume if I was super handsome, there would be more friendliness, not less. The closest to getting uncomfortable is when someone is into me whom I find very uninteresting; that's just "awkward", and so extremely tame compared to having to wonder whether she is just a bit creepy or maybe capable of rape. When women invite me to somewhere or strike up a conversation, I can just be relaxed without having to keep one eye on the exit. I consider that normal but it's, sorry for saying it, a privilege. It really is.

My point is, it's not the "being considered attractive" by itself that offends and hurts people. I dare say everybody likes that, if it's respectful and unassuming, like a genuine compliment without expecting reciprocation or any other rewards. The problem is when it's not.

> I don't understand why the emphasis is on the tech community.

Because that's the indsutry that is the major growth sector for the US economy, and a category that is threatening to swallow or change literally every other aspect of the economy.

Our community receives added scrutiny because we're where people desperately want to (and arguably, need to) be in order to thrive. And yet we have constructed a giant edifice that turns people away in droves. Those few that run the myth-laden, idolized, unscientific gauntlet called "the interview process" are then subject to "cultural forces" that are generally just elaborate power structures identical to every other industry.

Only we are the gatekeepers of one of the very few industries that is considered accessible to young people AND that is growing AND that can be entered without a 4 year college degree.

Are you truly so surprised that you need to ask this question?

Don't take this too critically, but what you wrote gives the impression that you aren't familiar with feminism as it extends beyond the tech sphere. HN is a tech news site, not a feminism one, so the posts you see about feminism here will be naturally related to the former. All those shows you mentioned are criticized.