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by kajecounterhack 3904 days ago

  I would expect us to behave better considering we actually 
  give it a voice and properly label it as negative behavior.
If only this were true. Apparently the greater (male-dominated) culture surrounding technology doesn't dissuade this behavior enough.

  I'm not condoning the behavior, but we're all animals and 
  sex is a thing - it gets the best of many of us and we end 
  up acting like baboons
Despite your disclaimer this still echoes the "boys will be boys" sentiment, one used to justify harm / mistreatment of women by dismissing their actions as part of male nature. This is a lie and needs to change; individuals are responsible for their words, actions, and any harm they cause.
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I don't think toolz was trying to say "boys will be boys", I think toolz was saying we should try to fix society, rather than pretend this is only a problem in tech

  I think toolz was saying we should try to fix society, 
  rather than pretend this is only a problem in tech
Who's pretending the problem is only in tech? Attacking the problem in our industry is part of fixing society as a whole (it's a subproblem).
how could you possibly have interpreted that as 'boys will be boys'? I never mentioned a gender, in fact I was pretty explicit about including everyone. My statement applies to all genders.

edit: this is a good example of unintentional sexism - when talking about negative sexual behavior, people assume it's a guy. This needs to stop just as much as any other negative behavior. If we setup expectations for guys to behave badly, don't be surprised when they do.