[evook]

Working at real scale, I'd choose some cages in a datacenter I can walk in and place offices at over AWS anytime.

Btw you'd cry if I were allowed call out some companies that still run lotus notes.

[mkozlows]

Lotus Notes is a fine example of what we're talking about. Yes, companies use it, but no company is ever going to switch to Notes. The companies that use Notes in 2020 is going to be the ones that use it in 2015 minus the ones that quit using it. That's what "walking dead" means.

[vonmoltke]

> Btw you'd cry if I were allowed call out some companies that still run lotus notes.

I worked for one (Raytheon). :/

[discodave]

This makes no sense.

How many Amazon, Google or Microsoft engineers (or even SREs) have ever set foot in one of their datacenters.

Hint: the answer is basically none.