[dynomight]

I think a lot of the debate over evolution has to do with doctrines rather than concepts. I think a lot of it also has to do with a grudge between western science and the roman catholic church. It's a well deserved grudge I believe, but it doesn't get to a better understanding of science or religious thought.

I think the creationists are not necessarily dumb but I have no doubt that the evolutionists are not faithless.

[fiatjaf]

You're simplifying, like everyone do. This is not "science vs religion".