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by iofj 3914 days ago
Luckily they're on it :

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3258829/Driverless-t...

Everybody's missing the really bad thing about these trucks and self-driving cars though. Everything is patent encumbered. So they will transform a bottom up industry (dependant on people to drive the trucks, trucks which can be produced by any of a 1000 companies) into a top-down patent-encumbered capital-intensive industry (because only one company will get self-driving cars thanks to our patent system). There will be one company driving these trucks, not many like today.

This will destroy truck drivers, yes, absolutely. However something it will also do is sink every KMO that has trucks driving, which is a a lot of them here in Germany.

So give it another 10 years and "oh no hell no to self driving trucks/cars" will be one of the few things socialists and capitalists/liberalists agree on, because it will destroy the constituency of both parties. I also seriously doubt they can reliably deliver cargo in the central streets of Germany's cities. The ones built in the 14th century which are about wide enough for a single horse carriage (very tight for a car, and truck drivers actually manage to squeeze in (you -often- have to forgive some damage of course))

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> I also seriously doubt they can reliably deliver cargo in the central streets of Germany's cities.

I'm always pretty curious about why people, even on HN, seem to equate "this needs high precision" with "automated systems won't cope" when it comes to driverless cars. Saying something is really hard for a person because it requires careful, precise control sounds like exactly the sort of thing you want machines for.

So what is it about the task that is complex for a machine to solve?

Even in your patent-encumbered worst-case scenario I don't think DHL et al will have much problem paying licensing fees.

Urban transport will not be HGV. City limits trans-shipment points will split packages into inner-city deliverables.

Last mile is an active area of research investment e.g. electric cargo bikes [1]

The buzz phrase in the literature is massification to atomisation [2]

[1] https://k4rgo.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/k4rgo-ups-germany....

[2] https://people.hofstra.edu/geotrans/eng/ch1en/conc1en/atomiz...