[you_eeeeeediot]

Gonna be hard to compete with the likes of Cisco Nexus... I mean after almost 5 years of the Nexus 1000V platform they come to the table with an "open-source" software platform to be used on hardware that no one is currently using?

I could see this getting traction if they announced it was compatible with some of the newer switches

[epistasis]

The Nexus 1000V is not really in the same category at all. This is a replacement for NX-OS.

And honestly, I really don't know how Cisco's Nexus line is going to survive at all. They will coast for a while on the population of Cisco certified engineers that don't want to learn new things, but it is literally cheaper for us to buy new hardware and support contracts than it is to renew our Cisco support contract. And the alternatives are far more capable than NX-OS for our ops people.

The Nexus line is effectively dead, as I see it.

[technion]

I asked our Cisco representative to offer a competing quote against an HP networking deal, and he responded with a quote for Cisco servers, and Ironport mail filtering.

When I asked him what was going on, he pointed out that he only responds to bids he can win. I told him there were no servers in that opportunity, and he went on to discuss that, from a sales point of view, I have a better chance of pushing servers anyway, than pricing Cisco against HP networking. That's from one of their own guys, and it says a lot.

[tw04]

It says HP is trying to buy market share. That strategy doesn't tend to work well long-term when your shareholders catch on.

[epistasis]

I doubt HP is losing a dime on their switch pricing, unless HP is even less efficient than I expect them to be. Other vendors beat HP handily on price with identical hardware specs. Cisco has gotten fat on ridiculous margins, and it's doubtful that they will be able to survive in a marketplace where merchant silicon drives commodity switches.

[wmf]

Keep in mind that ODM switches are 1/3 to 1/5 the price of Cisco.