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by nickpsecurity 3916 days ago
To be clear, I wasn't smearing any developers or the project relative to others. Just noting a common problem in OSS development that probably hurts their project to some degree.

Appreciate you adding detail on the project's situation. Also on how you all view the post and its effects. As HN gets exposure, do you a specific, alternative approach for anyone reading that might end up Jason's shoes to get the OpenBSD team focused on a particular project and digging into it? I'm guessing he didn't make an attempt outside the public disclosure or made an ineffective one.

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Find out who's been involved with the area of the code base recently, and mail all their @openbsd.org addresses directly in one mail.

If they don't reply after a few attempts, or give unsatisfactory answers, try mailing Theo. He acts as arbitrator in such situations.

If even that doesn't help, your last option is to write good fixes yourself, and keep submitting them as diffs to tech@ until you're either banned from posting to the list (at which point you should just give up) or your diffs end up being commited.

That's crystal clear: now anyone reading knows the best approach. Makes sense, too. Except that last part.

I agree it's the best option to rollup the sleeves and just fix the problem you're griping about. However, a write-up like Jason's is a valid option, too, if person doesn't have time/resources/skill for that option. Because, at that point, known issues would've been ignored by everyone up to Theo despite it being in default install and under OpenBSD's quality image. A write-up drawing attention to the issue would be justified to prevent users from placing unjustified trust in that component. Being informed lets them take action either on improving the component themselves, limiting damage it could do, or just avoiding it altogether.

Still agree that the gripe should go to the developers and Theo first.

But Jason did send diffs, and we are discussing his situation as an example.

Anyway, like it or not, in the OpenBSD community, working diffs, especially ones that fix a security issue, are the best way of winning an argument. You can try to blog about it but you probably won't be taken as seriously. So if you really care to convince the community from the outside and everything else has failed, and you can't code C youself, find a friend who can and ask for help.