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by TheIronYuppie 3911 days ago
Disclosure: I work for Google.

To the best of my recollection, I don't believe we've ever shutdown a product. Was there one in particular that hit you? (Reader, Wave, etc are totally different divisions.)

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Google Code was first turned into a graveyard, then deprecated, and soon will shut down altogether. Reader was not strictly a development tool (which is what I guess you refer to as "your division"), but was heavily used by developers, so it significantly disrupted people's workflow. Same for Wave and any web API (there's quite a few of them which were unceremoniously dumped).
It is not really Google's fault that Code was not a successful product, other than that they simply didn't have the energy/budget/will to actually make it a competitive product with Github.
Saying Google "doesn't have the budget" to do something is fairly preposterous, tbh. I can understand that they were wrong-footed by the rise of Github; Code was built to compete with Sourceforge, when GH didn't even exist. From day 1 though, it was clear that Code wasn't even "better enough" to actually kill SF for good; further development was incredibly slow. When Github hit their stride, Google reacted by just giving up. They didn't even attempt a comeback.

So yeah, I think it's entirely their fault.

well, google isn't a small business, where "the budget" can be synonymous with "the bank account(s)". like many (all?) large businesss, things are organizationally regimented into units (and sub-units, etc), and budgets are allocated toward each unit.

so while "google" might have funds, the "google code development team" may have a very tiny allocation.

Of course, but budget allocation does not descend from Heaven fully formed, so to speak. Google directors (i.e. Google) decided Code was not a priority, so in the end it's Google-the-company's fault that it had to close.
I think there was no reason for them to keep Google Code as a going concern with the rise of Github. They were not going to do as good a job as Github, and it wasn't something they were making any money off of.

Even if they had been trying.

But yes, like many Google products, it was basically released and abandoned. They weren't trying. (If they had been, maybe we never would have had a github...)

I do think as a public service, they could have left all the code (and wiki documentation) accessible read-only virtually perpetually. Surely they can afford that.

Instead, we get tarball download only, and only until late 2016, after which it's all gone forever, if it hasn't been migrated elsewhere by code owners or third parties.

Are the different divisions not Google?

But it is more common for a Google product to be completely abandoned, no new features, few bugfixes, etc., as opposed to being actually shut down.

Google Drive hosting, to be fair it still works and you guys gave plenty of heads up (August 31, 2016). Just because they are in different divisions doesn't mean Google hasn't shut things down.
Crap. I literally meant to say "Google Cloud" and didn't. Yes, I'm well aware other products were shut down, but Google Cloud has not.
Oh brother. I guess if you're using the strict definition that a product is only something people pay for, then you may be right, but in the more generally accepted meaning that a Google product is something Google makes that people outside of Google use, you're just flat out wrong.

There's a long, long list of Google products and services that have been discontinued, as somebody else already linked to in this thread: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_products#Discon...