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by zo1 3917 days ago
>"and it just seems unlikely that he'll make good on everything he is promising."

This is unfortunately a big failing of democracy and the political landscape, in my opinion. You have individuals that are voted into political positions under certain "promises", and then have access to a myriad of excuses that they claim prevented them from implementing said promises. Of course, I understand that sometimes there really are stumbling blocks and active measures preventing a plan from being implemented. But can we not draw a line somewhere? And hold political figures accountable for at least trying to implement their promises. Or at least require them to present sound reasons or studies for actually wanting to enact something as law. E.g. "Study on effects of UBI on the well-being of single-parent households"

Additionally, I'm a tad confused about this concept of Democracy (warning, not really confused, just arguing): If the president is elected in a presidential election and represents the majority of the people, why then do we elect a separate set (branch, as they call it), of individuals at a more granular level that could very well "fight" the already-elected president? I'm referring to the congress/senators there. Could the entire problem not be solved by removing the entire "checks-and-balances" concept, and simply hold presidents accountable for their actions (or lack thereof when it comes to promises)? And by accountable, I mean real consequences: prison/large-fines.

Following from that, we don't all believe that we could potentially get a "crazy" or "rogue" president that abuses his power after election? E.g. creating some sort of police-state, starting wars that the public doesn't want or rewriting constitutional-law? Such that we require some sort of "checks-and-balances" entity/branch to keep him/her from doing so.

Anywho, just some random rants from someone that thinks too-logically about politics, because my ideology requires me to.

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> Additionally, I'm a tad confused about this concept of Democracy (warning, not really confused, just arguing): If the president is elected in a presidential election and represents the majority of the people, why then do we elect a separate set (branch, as they call it), of individuals at a more granular level that could very well "fight" the already-elected president?

You're confused. That's not a bug, it's a feature. The whole political philosophy of the US is that no one person gets power that somebody else can't block.

> Could the entire problem not be solved by removing the entire "checks-and-balances" concept, and simply hold presidents accountable for their actions (or lack thereof when it comes to promises)?

The thing you see as a problem could be solved that way, yes. But imagine that the next president is Trump rather than Sanders. Still think it's a good idea?

The public makes bad decisions at the ballot box sometimes. No matter which way you lean politically, you're sure to be able to find examples in the last 20 years. Having Congress able to block some of their most stupid ideas is genius, rather than a flaw.

I'm afraid that this risks sounding terribly terribly condescending and I don't want it to, but I truly intend the following to be helpful...

> that thinks too-logically about politics

There is a reason Justice Oliver Wendell Homes said "The life of the law has not been logic; it has been experience." Humans are complex and if you try to define a set of axioms (or special forms) and build up and understanding from that, it is all too easy to follow your line of thought past massively lethal flaws. In your case, there are very good reasons why we don't give the president all of the powers that are currently allocated to congress. It is very very tempting to lay out specific ones for you. Other commenters will surely do that. However, I think that would not help you learn a better way to approach thinking about human power structures and the ways that they can fail. You should start by reading (or listening to audiobooks of) more history. Read broadly, enough that you start to experience the phenomenon described here: http://squid314.livejournal.com/350090.html

If you want some easy-to-digest things to start with, this list of resources videos is pretty good, but has the flaw that it is all from one source: - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yocja_N5s1I&list=PLBDA2E52FB... - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E9WU9TGrec&index=1&list=PL8... - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyzi9GNZFMU&index=1&list=PL8...

For understanding the law, these are a good start: - http://lawcomic.net/guide/?page_id=5 - https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/

As an exercise, reading both of these and weighing them is a good one. - http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/libertarianism.html - http://raikoth.net/libertarian.html - http://slatestarcodex.com/2015/03/18/book-review-the-machine...

But I really can't actually drop a list of sources on you and give you what you need to have the instinct of thinking "What are the ways that this simplified view of things could go terribly terribly wrong." I'm possibly just giving you my biases. I really do hope you go out and read more stories of where things about how humans work, both in real life and in fiction.

This applies to many human institutions beyond the federal government. https://xkcd.com/592/