[ogreveins]

There's a reason that in order to become an actual engineer you're required to pass a professional engineering exam. In many states you're literally breaking the law if you put PE on your business card[1].

Putting it mildly, with all of the asshats that can barely create CRUD apps calling themselves software engineers and making an amazing salary when compared to their pathetic skills its a wonder the median salary hasn't plummeted like a rock.

I honestly think having someone legally responsible is necessary for proper programming and security practices to be put into place. It works with HIPAA and the real engineering profession. The people going through these classes are no more than weekend woodshop students and the spaghetti they string together will show them to be.

[1]http://sce.uhcl.edu/helm/SWEBOK_IEEE/papers/10%20reprint%205...

[jpittis]

I would guess that there are lot of qualified "engineers" (not certified) with just cs, math or other non engineering degrees. How could we keep certification from excluding all these bright people?