[jtr1]

Hi Julien - would you mind talking a little about what you see as the value difference to a student completing your two year program vs completing a bootcamp program and say, jumping into an apprenticeship or learning on the job somewhere?

[rudyrigot]

Techcrunch puts it better that we do: "Here’s the problem. Learning technology-related skills in 8 weeks is really, at best, the tip of the techberg. We’re selling students an unrealistic short-term outcome. Because of this illusion, we are saturating the market with students who understand very little about products or engineering, yet still expect to get jobs that require years of experience. As any experienced product or web engineer will tell you, it takes at least a few years to wrap your head around how the web and business work together." (source: http://techcrunch.com/2015/08/29/graduated-from-an-engineeri...)

Code is one of the many skills solid software engineers must be great at; and we believe only real projects such as the ones we do at Holberton School can build up the real experience and skill variety recruiters expect from solid engineers. More and more companies are taking on a "no-bootcamp" policy, because the bootcamp trainee are saturating the job market, and recruiters are noticing they don't fit the bill as well as students with project history.