[thefirstzealot]

True, kotlin has the huge advantage that google switched to Intellij, and the team knew how to take advantage of this opportunity really well. It also helps that JetBrains is a much smaller company and with that, more focused on their core products.

As opposed to that, I assume it is much harder for the ceylon team to get the entire company to support them. For example, even though vert.x 2.0 had support for ceylon, it's not clear for me if that is also the case for vert.x 3.0, and even if it is, ceylon still isn't featured as a main language on their landing page.

But they are working on an Intellij plugin, which I think will be available in ceylon 1.2. And that is the first step towards Android support.

Anyway, I hope both languages do well.