[TulliusCicero]

Two things:

Remington & Homestead don't connect to Stevens Creek Trail, and Mary & Bernardo aren't East-West streets.

You said they were adding protected bike lanes, are any of those protected? Off the top of my head, I can't think of any protected bike lanes I've seen in Sunnyvale.

[ChuckMcM]

Fair enough, I would ride Remington to Bernardo, up to Heatherstone and then along Heatherstone to the trail entrance.

We may have a different definition of protected, I think of the lanes on Remington as protected but they are created by striping, not curb work, so it isn't like there is a lane all to itself.

If you want to get involved, you can talk to the council at the BPAC meetings : http://sunnyvale.ca.gov/CityGovernment/BoardsandCommissions/... And see the current map: http://sunnyvale.ca.gov/Portals/0/Sunnyvale/DPW/Transportati... (from 2007, they are updating it)

In general, the city is very supportive of creating a bike friendly environment.

[TulliusCicero]

> We may have a different definition of protected, I think of the lanes on Remington as protected but they are created by striping, not curb work, so it isn't like there is a lane all to itself.

Ah, that explains it.

So, you're talking about painted bike lanes (regular single stripe of paint to separate). There are also buffered bike lanes (extended painted area that separates bike lanes) and protected bike lanes (some kind of physical barrier between cars and bike lanes). There are many different options for separating bikes from cars, but if you're just using paint it's not considered protected; the ones in this link all are protected except for the first: http://www.peopleforbikes.org/blog/entry/14-ways-to-make-bik...

The reason why this distinction is important is that average people are vastly more likely to feel comfortable riding in a protected lane than an unprotected one (note: sometimes protected bike lanes are referred to as 'physically separated'): http://www.peopleforbikes.org/blog/entry/selling-biking-perc...

[praneshp]

Wolfe has protected lanes all through, I used to bike on that. Same with Fremont/Sunnyvale-Saratoga, etc.

When I rode a bike to work because I had to bike 500m on El Camino, which is 500m more than what I want to on that road. The alternate was quite longer.

Edit: first para incorrect, I had "protected bike lanes" and "dedicated bike lanes" confused.

[TulliusCicero]

> Wolfe has protected lanes all through, I used to bike on that.

I have no idea what you're talking about. I bike across Wolfe on Evelyn all the time and have seen no protected bike lanes on it. I just checked Street View on a handful of different parts of Wolfe and I see zero protected bike lanes, and it says the data is from this year. You're talking about Wolfe Rd that crosses Caltrain and goes next to Vallco right?

> Same with Fremont/Sunnyvale-Saratoga, etc.

Checked these on Street View since I don't drive on them that often, same deal, zero protected bike lanes. Unless they've done some very recent construction, I think you may be confused about what protected bike lanes are: http://www.peopleforbikes.org/green-lane-project/pages/prote...

[praneshp]

Very sorry, I had "protected bike lanes" and "dedicated bike lanes" confused. Thanks!

[TulliusCicero]

No problem, protected bike lanes are a relatively recent innovation in the states, and up until recently they usually went by the term "cycle tracks", but turns out that "protected bike lane" is a much easier-to-understand name.