[vollmarj]

Happy to clear that up. We don't count hobby farms as they aren't our typical users. We are focusing on the ~280k row crop farms in the US of which over 90k have started using FarmLogs. Most of our customers have between 600 and 10k acres of land each.

[ChuckFrank]

Thank you. I think that's a fair representation of your marketshare. When you say 'started', what exactly do you mean? Used trials versions, previously engaged, or full time active members?

[johnchristopher]

Slightly off-topic but I am dumbstruck by the size of US farms. Where I live it's common for farmers to manage 10 hectares fields and these are considered big fields.

[fanquake]

Every year we take on workmen/students normally from outside Australia, who need to spend time actually working on a farm to finish their agricultural degrees or similar. It's always interesting to see their reactions after they finish telling us about their "big" farms back home, when they realise we can fit their entire farm + change into a single paddock here.

[gadders]

In some cases you can fit Israel into one of the farms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Creek_Station

[privong]

> In some cases you can fit Israel into one of the farms: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anna_Creek_Station

In the US, at least, I believe that particular example would be considered a "ranch" rather than a "farm".

[ghshephard]

I know in Canada, for the longest time (At least since the 1940s), a large family farm was a 1/2 section - or 320 acres . But nowadays, a large family farm ranges all the way up to 4 sections (1280 acres). 8x improvement in 70 years.

[davelnewton]

I'd classify that as an "8x increase" instead of "improvement".

[ghshephard]

I suspect I'm missing something subtle here - are you proposing that a single family, (with a bit of extra help during harvest), being able to farm 8 times more land, isn't a good thing? And, based on what I've seen of the tractors these days (air conditioners, enclosed cabs, hell, little beer cooler to boot!) - the work, while hard, is also somewhat less backbreaking than it would have been in the 1940s as well.

[davelnewton]

No subtleties; "more" doesn't equal "better". It can, in some ways, but there's no generalized way to make them mean the same thing--it depends entirely on judging criteria for both.

E.g., "good" in what way? That there's less manual labor now? (Not a function of having more land.) "Good" in the sense that ag companies tend to make more money on larger farms? "Good" in the sense that yields are (generally) consistently up? (Also not related to having more land.)

To make "good" meaningful you must strictly define what's "good", realizing that there are almost always other (possibly contradictory) criteria, and that what might be "good" in one sense may be "bad" in another.

In any case, my point was that "improvement" has a solely positive connotation. You could have said "8x improvement in farmed acreage", which sort-of implies an increase in acreage is "good", but why not just be accurate in the first place, and call it precisely what it is, which is an increase in average acreage?

[ghshephard]

Ah, I see what you are getting at. I guess, you would also say, that storage density hasn't improved 1000x in the last 20 years, but "increased". And that the rate of death from automobile accidents per 1 million miles traveled since 1950 hasn't improved, but, "decreased".

I guess I wanted to combine both an objective and subjective assessment in a single word, which admittedly while not precisely accurate, got across my meaning.

I was actually hoping you were going to give me a traditional marxist response that we should not seek to decrease the amount of labor per unit of production, (that decreasing the amount of work per bushel of wheat is not an improvement) - I had an answer for that!

[Totoradio]

Same here, my father has a ~80 ha (~200 acres) farm in Brittany, and that's a medium sized farm in the area.

[wooster]

Thanks! That's helpful for clarifying what your target market is.

[justingood]

Still a bit ambiguous as crop farms aren't the only type of farms - there's a large sector of the industry devoted to livestock.

[rbobby]

Are you in the Canadian market?