[itsybitsycoder]

But websites don't ask for my consent before they show me ads, and I have no idea what they expect the "price" of an article to be before I click on it, nor what I'll be getting in return. Why does the author of an article have a unilateral right to decide the terms of exchange?

Websites are able to detect most ad-blockers these days. If they like, they're welcome to deny me access to their content if they see I've blocked the ads.

[Mz]

I am not suggesting they should have a unilateral right. I am asking for suggestions on how to solve this so that content producers can get paid without posting ads, something no one has yet to really respond to.

The Internet has created a situation that did not previously exist. It is natural that we don't automatically know what the solution is.

[jlarocco]

They can charge money, like people have been doing for thousands of years...

I post about this in every ad-block article. The reality that nobody wants to admit is that most web content isn't worth paying for. Web publishers know it, and they're scared of a web that isn't funded by advertisements, because they'll have to find new jobs.

[toomuchtodo]

A basic income is probably the only way writers survive writing; there just aren't enough people willing to pay enough for content for a majority of writers to survive off of it.

[ForHackernews]

Writing (like music, acting, art, fashion, etc.) has always been a lottery economy. A very very tiny fraction (JK Rowling, Dan Brown, EL James) of writers will become staggeringly successful, spurring millions to dream of matching their success and working for free in the meantime.

It's the same reason that thousands of naive 20-somethings move to LA every year.

[toomuchtodo]

I'd consider the SFBA startup scene in those same categories.

[Mz]

Thank you for saying that. This is very true. And, yet, somehow, we don't argue that any startup should just give their product away for free.

[ForHackernews]

> And, yet, somehow, we don't argue that any startup should just give their product away for free.

Are you kidding me? It's practically heresy around here to suggest that a startup should charge money and sell a product. Try it and see yourself derided as a "lifestyle business" instead of a real startup.

HN (and VC-funded startups generally) worship at the Church of Growth above all else, and the easiest way to get that coveted "hockey stick graph" is to give everything away for free. Grow now, and worry about revenue later, so the mantra goes.

[ifdefdebug]

The internet has created a situation of millions of people writing text that nobody wants to read, yet you frequently stumble upon it when searching for real content.

In my experience, the contents that really matter are written either by people who are NOT trying to make money from their writing because they wish to share experiences from their day jobs or free time, or by people who are payed for writing by someone but not by their readers.

[JupiterMoon]

> Websites are able to detect most ad-blockers these days. If they like, they're welcome to deny me access to their content if they see I've blocked the ads.

The better option is to ask the user to turn off their adblocker and explain why (and say that the adverts are vetted for malware properly).

[gress]

What has malware got to do with anything?

[JupiterMoon]

Adverts have been know to have malware payloads for drive bys embedded in them...