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by saiya-jin 3930 days ago
not utilizing weapons and tools available to full potential vs possible harm to some marine life... guess what a soldier chooses?
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> possible harm to some marine life

It's not "possible", it is certain and documented. 155 whales and dolphins killed in 5 years and over 2000 injured [0]. And by accounts from marine biologists, they are dying agonizing deaths.

[0] http://www.cbsnews.com/news/navy-to-limit-some-training-that...

So we must just accept the fact that military is there to destroy environments and they just don't really care? I expect more from them.
Destroying the environment is half of what the military does during wartime. So long as we have militaries, it's hard to see a future where we're not burning cities, bombing bridges and other critical infrastructure, and driving around highly environmentally unfriendly tanks, planes, and warships.
Well, to be fair, the military is also the largest and most capable humanitarian organization at the disposal of the world's governments. To think their sole purpose is destruction for the sake of destruction is also a bit of an oversimplification, peacekeeping is a useful role as well.
Yet often, military humanitarian missions are in relief to atrocities caused by... other militaries.
Sure. They're also the first to respond to natural disasters.
That's more likely to be the National Guard or something like that. Which is military indeed, but not the same type of military that we're talking about here.
Sole purpose, no; primary purpose, definitely.
Agree that we should expect more of military and government, but given the fact that a lawsuit was required here and the rampant abuses in the name of national security, we are a long ways off.
> So we must just accept the fact that military is there to destroy environments and they just don't really care?

No, the military is there to win wars. When you're in a fight for your life, you don't much care if you trample on a bush, or even break your own bones.

It's not binary. It's a trade-off that potentially decreases their capabilities and readiness. We might weigh the calculus differently (fewer dead whales) but it's not as simple as saying they don't care.
I think that "of course" is often intended to be descriptive of the way things are, not the way things ought to be.