[kolev]

You're wrong. EV is a scam. I can afford to buy EV for most of my sites, but I don't do it. Because consumers don't really care. Even HN doesn't have an EV! Ferrari is what everybody wants, EV is a different story! And stop downvoting all my comments - it shows your subpar human material. Downvote my main point and stop right there. No need to go aggressive and try to silence me and not comment further, because you will "punish" me further as well.

[cpach]

As per the guidelines, please keep discussions civil on HN and please don't complain about being downvoted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[kolev]

I am civil, but those who can't help the sick urge to downvote every single comment of mine although they all represent the same points are not civilized.

[dang]

No, cpach is right. You can't post comments like "it shows your subpar human material" to Hacker News. Personal attacks are not allowed here, regardless of whether someone downvoted unfairly.

There's also the guideline specifically asking you not to go on about being downvoted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

[kolev]

Most are just suggestions, not law. I stand by what I said. Being vindictive is not civilized. I didn't make personal attacks - I have no idea who downvoted me.

[dang]

Personal attacks can be anonymous, so that's a red herring. And HN's guidelines may not be laws, but neither are they optional—we ban accounts that violate them repeatedly.

It's not hard to see what kind of discourse we're going for here. What's hard is to stick to it when you're feeling that someone is subpar. On the internet, human biases yield a strong tendency to feel that way about others, and we all need to be disciplined about counteracting it. If you can't or won't take up the task, you're not welcome to comment here.

That doesn't mean you have to abide by it perfectly. I can't, and doubt anyone can. It means that when we slip we need to recognize our error and correct it, not defensively dismiss the information.

[kolev]

Then do the right thing and solve the problem by removing downvote on comments - you will do this community a huge favor and you will simplify the UX as well. It has no purpose outside of emotional buildups. Upvotes give you enough for sorting purposes - it's been working well for Facebook and Twitter. For everything else, there's reddit!

[rimantas]

I really would not care if any of your sites had EV. And I don't care that HN does not have EV. But I may care whether the place I am going to spend money does have one.

[kolev]

You don't shop at Amazon.com? Because they don't believe in the EV scam either! More on the DV vs EV topic here: https://certsimple.com/blog/are-ev-ssl-certificates-worth-it