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mikeash I think you were really patient here. Any economist would agree you are correct that there is no practical difference except perhaps electoral spin. JoshT appears to be either trolling or trying really hard to make a point that has nothing to do with your question. I have nothing against his point, I'm not a big fan of taxes either, but it was clear about ten posts ago that he isn't really responding to you. I think anybody reading this finds it clear so, again, bonus points for your patience!