[belorn]

What consent is that if people don't understands the facts, implications, and future consequences of the action. Worse, updates has an common perception to be small security fixes.

Should we call it uninformed consent? tricked consent? non-binding consent?

If we want to use legal terms, is 6G download ordinarily and reasonably to be contemplated by the user?

[dasil003]

Unfortunately I think in the computing world the idea that it is even possible to understand the facts, implications and consequences of an action is increasingly a fantasy.

It's hard enough for the seasoned geek to acquire enough knowledge actually understand how a computer works. But then you throw in cloud services where the source of truth becomes blurred, and the services are constantly changing under your nose. Even assuming the best of intentions from companies building these systems, it's impossible to keep up.

[Karunamon]

Well take your pick, then. You can have automatic updates and get security/functionality updates, or you can not and not, and an OS upgrade can be reasonably considered under the aegis of system updates.

Y'all have been campaigning for users to be automatically updated, often whether they want to or not (c.f. Windows rebooting overnight causing the loss of any open documents) because having them not be makes everyone demonstrably less safe and users will never update if you ask them to.

You can't have it both ways. Which will it be?

[pdkl95]

You and a lot of other people in this thread seem to be going out of your way to conflate automatic updates (such as security patches), and upgrading to another product (such as Win [78] -> Win 10).

You're trying to tie the concepts together to create false dichotomy, which you use as a rhetorical tactic. This usually involves specifically ignoring the people you're replying to and many other posts in the thread that already answered this subject.

[Karunamon]

The "different product" differentiation is more a marketing one than an objective one. The notable changes between 8/10 are a lot less than, say. 3.1/95.

[9872]

Users don't understand anything. This is not new.