[ghouse]

Disagree: Environmentalists (at least here in California) understand that fire has a role in forest management. Parties opposed to that course of action are the homeowners in the forests and portions of the timber industry who would prefer to log the unnaturally dense forests (caused by fire suppression).

[sp332]

From the other side of the country, I'm glad to know there are some sane environmentalists in CA. We only hear about the stupid ones over here.

[XorNot]

It's worth considering that this angle is frequently and aggressively pushed by parties which want to discredit all environmentalists for various reasons.

[sp332]

Or all Californians :)

[sageikosa]

One decent underwater rock-slide in Hawaii will end the need to debate conservation in California. Likewise in the Azores for New Jersey. Nature doesn't judge nor plan, it just happens.